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The American Bouvier des Flandres Club |
| Identifying the Bouvier |
Thanks to Pam Green for allowing us to use her article. We hope this will help everyone to be able to identify the Bouvier des Flandres, and other similar breeds, in shelters and pounds everywhere. We have added photos much like Pam describes in her article for the Bouvier des Flandres and the Giant Schnauzer. We will add more as they are submitted. Simply click on the link in the chart below for the various breed photos.
IDENTIFYING BOUVIERS AT THE POUND
Bouv versus other breeds with which it might be confused
by Pam Green , 2001
When a rescue person is called to the pound or shelter to identify or bail
out a dog that might be of that person's adopted breed, there is always the question of
whether or not the dog is actually that
breed or some other. Dogs that land in the pound are usually very neglected in their
grooming and they may not be typically conformed specimens of their breed and they may not
have been subjected to the ear and/or tail alterations specified by the standard for the
breed. In short it is rare that they look like the photos in the breed books. And for some
breeds there are certain others that look extremely similar even when the resemblance to
the textbook specimen is perfect. For my breed, the Bouvier, there are several other very
similar looking breeds plus more that could be confused with a really off type Bouv.
Below is a chart in which the "standard" or usual appearances are in plain type
and the common alternatives are enclosed in parentheses. Truly distinguishing features are
marked with an asterisk (*). Please remember that any breed which is supposed to be
cropped eared may easily be left uncropped, ie natural eared; but breeds that are supposed
to be natural eared will probably never appear cropped. It is still possible that a
natural eared breed might appear with one ear mutilated or perhaps surgically trimmed
after an injury. If the unfortunate dog has been in a drug dealer's possession, it is
possible that ears have been hacked short with a pocket knife to make the
dog look fierce. Likewise for tails: docked breeds may appear natural tailed, but natural
tailed breeds should not appear docked , though an individual might appear with a tail
that has been amputated due to an injury, but amputation will usually leave a tail longer
than the customary short dock. For sizes, in all breeds there will be those individuals
markedly larger or smaller than the range commonly accepted as correct. For colors, those
colors that are mentioned by the standard as forbidden or discouraged probably do occur
from time to time. Likewise coat profusion and texture can vary a lot.
| BREED | EARS | TAIL | COLORS | SIZE | OTHER |
| Bouvier des Flandres | Cropped (Natural = hanging or naturally semi-erect) |
Docked (Natural) | Black, Grey, or Fawn/buff (near white) | 22" to 28" (larger or smaller) | (Coat may be clipped, harsh & short) |
| Giant Schnauzer | Cropped (Natural) |
Docked (Natural) | Black, Salt & Pepper | Similar to Bouvier | May be wire coat |
| Black Russian | Natural* = Hanging | Docked (Natural) | Black | Larger than Bouvs, medium | Very rare in most of USA |
| Briard | Cropped or Natural | Natural* | Any color but White | Similar to Bouvier | Double dewclaws on rear legs* |
| Old English Sheepdog | Natural = Hanging | Docked (Natural) | Grey, Greyish with white(*) on head chest, feet | Similar to Bouvier | |
| Standard Poodle | Natural = Hanging | Docked longer than the Bouvier | Any color | 22" - 26" | Coat could look like Bouviers when unclipped and matted |
| Otterhound | Natural, very long | Natural, carried high | Black, Grey, Yellow, Reddish | 24" - 26" | |
| Portuguese Water Dog | Natural = Hanging | Natural | Black, Brown, White | 16" - 22" | Like smaller Bouvier |
| Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier | Natural = Hanging | Docked longer than the Bouvier | Wheaten | About 18", 35 pounds | |
| Puli | Natural | Natural | Black, Grey, White | 16" - 19" | Coat corded = Controlled mats |
| Bearded Collie | Natural | Natural | Black, Grey, Slate, Reddish sand, with white(*) head, chest, feet | 21" - 22" | Coat colors are streaky rather than solid |
| Kerry Blue Terrier | Natural | Docked | "Dark Blue" = Blued grey | 17" - 20" | |
| Polish Owczark Nizinny | Natural | Docked | Any color | 16" - 20" | European, rare in USA |
| Bergamasco | Natural | Natural | Black, Grey, nearly White | 22" - 24", 70-80 lbs | European, very rare in USA |
| Bouvier des Ardennes | Natural = Erect or semi | Docked | All colors | About 24", about 55 lbs | Very rare in Europe |
| Picardy Shepherd | Natural = Erect | Natural | Grey, Grey-blue, Grey-Fawn | 24" - 26", 60-70 lbs | Very harsh coat, European |
| Pyrenean Shepherd | Natural = Semi Erect | Docked (??) | Grey, Silver, White, Yellow | 16" - 20", 45 lbs | European |
*Truly distinguishing features
In practical terms, the breeds most likely to be confused with the Bouvier
are the Giant Schnauzer, the Briard, and the Black Russian. I absolutely cannot
distinguish a Black Russian from a Bouvier
(i.e. natural eared but docked black Bouvier or larger than average size); however in most
places in the USA Black Russians are absent or extremely rare. Many Giant Schnauzers are
indistinguishable from Bouvier -- much of the difference we see in show dogs is due to
clipping styles. The Briard IS distinguishable by the DOUBLE DEWCLAWS on the hindlegs;
responsible breeders tell me that some individuals might have incomplete double dewclaws
but would never have none at all -- which does not exclude possibility that several
generations of puppy mill breeding might produce lack of rear dewclaws. For the Old
English and the smaller Beardie, the usual pronounced white markings should distinguish
them from Bouvier. A Standard Poodle in black or grey if left unclipped and long ungroomed
might be mistaken for an ungroomed matted Bouv as the Poodle coat will matt and
"cord" readily if left long enough. I suppose I might have also included the
Komodor, always white (possibly very dirty) and corded. Otterhounds are fairly rare but
might be mistaken for a fawn Bouv, though it does not seem highly likely; vice versa would
perhaps be more likely. I have also listed several smaller breeds that conceivably could
be confused with a small bouv, especially the Portuguese Water Dog and Kerry Blue. I have
also listed some European breeds that should be very rare in the USA, so one should never
see these at a pound or shelter. I have however seen what appeared to me to be a Picardy
Shepherd = Bergere Picard on an episode of Star Trek Next Generation.
I suppose I should have included Scottish Deerhound and Irish Wolfhound on the chart.
Guess I overlooked them because they seem to me to not be confusable with Bouv -- so much
taller and so much leaner and sighthound figured, but people on the street often ask me if
my bouv is a Wolfhound (and I don't mean Bones, who did look like he might have a IW
granddad, but I mean typically stocky bouvs).
Please DO feel free to forward or cross-post this to anyone involved in rescue of any of
the breeds considered as well as anyone in rescue of any bred whatsoever as it may inspire
the to figure out a
corresponding chart for their own breed.
For more information, contact the ABdFC Webmaster
American Bouvier Rescue League